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including veterans of top silicon valley companies. these re-enforcements, she says, include a handful of presidential innovation fellows. much more on this story coming up later. i'll be back 5:00 p.m. eastern in "the situation room." "newsroom" continues right now with brooke baldwin. did bullying drive a student to open fire inside his school, hurting two boys and killing the math teacher? brand new developments just in to us here at cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. the operation to free inmates through bogus paperwork is more common than we thought. cnn investigates. are we closer to a cure for baldness? new hope from a new experiment. plus, the obama care signup is a mess, but one governor tells cnn it's working marvelously in his state. >> take a deep breath.
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everybody just needs to chill out a little bit. top of the hour, i'm brooke baldwin. great to be with you here. have new details today. it took just three minutes for this seventh grader to forever scar sparks middle school in nevada, killing a teacher, wounding two young students, and then shooting and killing himself. but two big questions remain today, 24 hours later. one, who is he? two, why? why did he do it? minutes ago police gave new details as far as what this 12-year-old boy did monday before school began. authorities say the boy first shot a student in the stomach and then math teacher mike landsberry triied to stop him. >> during the incident after the first student was shot, mr. landsberry calmly walked towards the shooter, putting his hands
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up in a motion to try to stop the individual's actions. mr. landsberry was fatally shot in the chest. mr. landsberry's heroic actions by stepping toward the shooter allowed for other students to flee the area. >> the tears and the tributes are pouring in here for landsberry, who served several tours in afghanistan. sparks police say they're still trying to figure out a motive here. again, the question why? a friend of the shooter says the boy was bullied. >> he was really a nice kid. he would make you smile when you're having a bad day. if you were -- he'd just ask you if he could buy you something. you know, he was just really a nice kid. i believe it was because i saw him getting bullied a couple times. i think he took out his bullying on it. >> cnn's stephanie elam is live in sparks for us. stephanie also hearing from
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police. they're crediting students, staff members at the school for their roles in all of this. what are they telling you? >> reporter: yeah, it's really amazing because none of the shooting actually happened inside of the school. all of it was around on the campus. it started around 7:15 a.m. when this assailant first encountered one student and shot that student and then walking across the playground area k he encountered the teacher, mike landsberry, coming toward him. that's when he shot him and then he shot the other student and then shot himself. they're saying because of that, the students, the staff had time to lock the school down and keep that student from getting in. take a listen. >> the procedures that are in place that the staff used did not allow the shooter to enter the school. i cannot thank their actions, what they did, along with the students of the school, i cannot thank them enough for what they've done.
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>> reporter: now, as far as the assailant is concerned, police say they do not at this point have any plans to release this child's name. he's 12 years old. he was just 12 years old. and we also learned his parents are under police protection. there's a police officer with them at all times, they said, while they're grieving and dealing with this. they also said that family is cooperating fully with the investigation, brooke. >> so when we heard from the police chief about potential charges against this student shooter's parents, what exactly did he mean by that? >> reporter: well, they're investigating where exactly this 12-year-old got the gun. that's not exactly clear. they do believe it came from his residence, where he lives. so they're investigating how he got his hands on the gun, what he did. if it turns out that the parents were negligent, they're saying there's a chance then that the parents could face charges, but they have not gone so far as to say that as of yet. >> okay. stephanie, thank you. to florida now, where new
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leads are still coming in here about who may have helped these two men, these two convicted killers who used forged documents to get out of prison. investigators are trying to figure out how joseph jenkins and charles walker used this phoney paperwork that allowed them to walk free just a couple days from one another. they were taken into custody saturday at a panama city, florida, motel. the state's top law enforcement official says there will be more arrests in this case. >> jenkins and walker are already serving life sentences. they have very little to lose. but those who helped them have very much to lose. i urge those of you who may have helped them to come forward, talk to us before we find you. >> i want to bring in larry lavigne, a former federal inmate and the founder of wall street prison consultants. larry, welcome. >> glad to be with you. >> let's talk about this escape
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plan here. these two guys, they had help from the outside world. that's what we're hearing from law enforcement. we know that officials have seized their prison computer. what i want from you is exactly how much contact do inmates, do high-security convicted killers have with the outside world? >> well, let's start with the law library. all inmates are allowed access to it the law library to fight your case, to try to get a sentence reduction, get warrants dropped, detainers dropped. they have access to a telephone. i don't know how many times a week or how many minutes they get in florida to call. they also have access to visiting. so they will have contact with people on the outside. >> what about the internet? >> and myself -- well, they should not have any access to the internet. i mean, in the federal system, you have access to e-mail where you can e-mail things back and forth, but there's no pictures, there's no documents. i can't see them jumping on google and browsing something, not inside the prison. >> so why would prison officials
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seize the computer, just for internal documents and things of that nature may be planning on this computer? >> it's possible they used the computers inside the law library to research case law and such to send e-mails to someone on the outside, directing them as far as what they wanted to do. i could go into my prison law library in the united states as an inmate, create my own documents on a typewriter, just using other inmates' paper work with a little bit of whiteout and i could create this order myself to get these guys out. >> wow. so when we hear about this forging of paperwork that was clearly successful in this case, have you heard of this happening before? >> well, i'll give you an example. i was in a federal prison in el paso, texas. some of the inmates there had outstanding warrants. they had detainers that were preventing them from being released. i drew up paperwork and sent it
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into the court back in california, where they had their detainers out of. mistakenly, the california state court system looked at the paperwork that i sent in and actually lifted the detainers on these people, and the federal prison was ready to release them just based on something that i have manually created on a typewriter and sent in. yes, i'm real familiar with this. >> yowow. we have this kind of escape, now there's this national spotlight on forging documents. >> well, there's more to this. in order to actually get this in the right hands, to get somebody who's serving a life sentence released, you've got to have somebody in the courthouse. i'm not talking somebody at the window, at the filing window. somebody on the inside took this paperwork and put it in the flow, the chain of paperwork. it was already supposedly stamped, signed by the judge. they just stuck it in the stack
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of paperwork. then it went through the normal distribution process. it went to the florida department of corrections. in turn, they sent a copy of it to the prison they were being held at. they then called back to the court, talked to the clerk to validate. is this release order real? they pulled up a copy of the counterfeit order and said, yes, this is real, release them. >> well, law enforcement said they had help. who knows how close that help was to them within the system. larry, thank you. coming up, new research suggests we are getting closer to a cure for baldness. plus, could the mysterious blond girl found in greece be a missing american girl? we're on that case. and the parents of the teenager found dead inside a high school gym mat are now taking legal action in their quest for answers. was kendrick johnson, whose body was stuffed with newspaper,
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attorneys, just announced they have officially petitioned the court to get involved. >> this coroner has to consider witness testimony, video surveillance in light of all the other things that are questionable about this investigation to make not only the public have confidence in this finding but this family to have some peace of knowing what really killed their child. >> cnn's victor blackwell has been all over this for us. he has now confronted the one man who could hold the key to the mystery of kendrick johnson's death. >> mr. watson? victor blackwell, cnn. this is the county coroner, bill watson. he can order something the family of kendrick johnson desperately wants, but he's not agreed to give it to them. >> i'm not commenting on
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anything. i'd like for you to leave my office. >> we'll come back to this conversation in a moment. first, for more than seven months, eight hours a day, six days a week this has been the scene in front of the county judicial center. kenneth and jacqueline johnson, supporters, signs, and a question. who killed kendrick johnson? >> no answers. we're not leaving until we get answers. >> they've never believed the theory from the county sheriffs investigators that their 17-year-old son climbed on to a rolled gym mat at school in january to grab a shoe at the center of one, fell into one, got stuck upside down, and was accidently suffocated. >> we are mostly concerned about what happened to kendrick, what they know about what happened to kendri kendrick, and why they're not telling us the truth. >> the johnson's exhumed kendrick's body and a second
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autopsy found he died of a blunt force trauma to the neck. >> it was a cover-up. >> and with opposing theories on the cause of death from competing pathologists, who can get to the bottom of our kendrick died? bill watson can, by ordering what's called a coroner's inquest. he has the power to empanel a jury of five and one alternate to listen to testimony, review evidence, and deliberate and term how kendrick johnson died and answer his parents. in march, the family's attorney sent watson this letter, a formal request that the court be convened immediately. a response was received saying he was precluded by statute from impanelling a coroner's jury. this petition requesting a coroner's inquest was submitted to the district attorney with more than 400 signatures. we spoke with watson in may after the county sheriffs office had closed its case. here's what he said about laurching a coroner's inquest
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for the johnsons. >> if they requested one and they don't feel that this is sufficient, then, you know, i'm elected to do what is best served to the people that elected me. i made a promise and took an oath to the effect that if i was elected, i would stand up and speak for those who can't speak for themselves. that's what i've done since january the 11th. >> would you welcome an inquiry? >> yes, sir, i will. i have nothing to -- there's nothing to hide. >> he's already said he'll give us one, and we want one. why wouldn't he give us one? >> so this month, five months after that interview, we went to visit watson. that takes us back to where we
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began. mr. watson? victor blackwell, cnn. are you going to order an inquest into the case of kendrick johnson? >> i'm not commenting on anything. i'd like for you to leave my office. >> you told me in may you would order an inquest. what changed your mind? >> i didn't tell you that. >> yes, you told me that on tape, sir. that if the people wanted one, you would order one. are you going to order an inquest? >> i'm not commenting on anything. >> why have you, sir, changed your mind? you it would me on tape you would order an inquest. then you -- >> a lot has changed and that's the way it is. >> what has changed? >> pressure from the sheriffs department and the system here in the county. that's why he's not going to do it now. but we surely want a coroner's inquest. >> the sheriffs office won't discuss that case, and the johnsons would be the first to
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get one during watson's time as coroner. >> can you tell me at least what is a coroner's inquest? >> i'd rather you look it up. >> there have been fewer than a half dozen here since 1985. what has changed, sir? >> thank you. >> watson would not answer that question, but the johnsons promise one thing will not change, their fight for an answer. they'll continue to sit in front of the courthouse with their support pers and their signs and their questions. >> if they want to leave, they're going to give us answers. we're not going nowhere. >> victor blackwell, cnn, georgia. >> victor, thank you. cnn has filed a motion to join the family's lawsuit, seeking full access to the sheriffs investigative files related to this case. this is all under the georgia open records act. cnn is also seeking the release of additional surveillance footage from the gym where johnson was found dead among other items we'd like to take a look at. coming up here, consumer reports advises americans to
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do you remember the movie from 2009 called "duplicity"? there were these two corporate spies trying to attain the holy grail of the business world. >> you're about to make a move. some new product.
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something big. >> the very existence of this product must be carefully protected. >> it's a total corporate death match. the competition will do anything to get their hands on this. >> what was the big get? it was the cure for baldness. now new research just reported in this academic journal from the national academy of sciences, we may be one step closer. our senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen joins me. i feel like we talk about this every few years. we sit at the edge of our seats hoping there's something. what's the latest? >> it's really fascinating what they did here. even if it doesn't work, it's fascinating they tried this. researchers at colombia took sells that are in hair follic s follicles. they put them on human skin that wouldn't ordinarily bear hair. they put that skin on the back
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of a mouse, on the back of mice. they tried this many times. most of the time it worked. >> so it sprouted hair. >> it sprouted hair. so skin that shouldn't sprout hair sprouted hair. theoretically, a bald head, which isn't sprouting hair, might sprout hair if it had this treatment. >> are you taking your own hair and putting it there? >> that's the way theoretically it would work. you'd take your own hair follicles. you would take those cells and create your own hair. >> so this sounds all exciting, but does this -- what are the kinks? where's the but? >> the but is they've only tried this in about seven people. we don't know if it will last a long time. hair falls out. it needs to grow back again. would this work for years and years? of course, you want it to work that long. also, you've got -- i mean, this is going to take a long time. anyone who thinks, now i have a full head of hair, they haven't even done clinical trials in
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humans yet. that's three to five years away. those trials take many years to do. >> so you got us all excited. >> i'm sorry. well, the nerd in me is excited. the science of this is really cool. >> so this is still years away. >> many years away. the fact that they got -- this is the nerdiness part -- the fact they got these cells to grow is really cool. they tried it in a flat petri dish. that didn't work. they flipped the dish over. when the cells were upside down, they partied and grew. >> so upside down was the key. >> that's what worked here. >> some years away, this is possible. >> if at all. i always like to be say it's possible that that will never see the light of day. that's possible. but this does look promising. it is interesting. they really did achieve something. >> okay. elizabeth cohen, thank you. coming up, consumer reports clarified its position after telling folks to avoid signing up for obama care right now, and the magazine is directly taking
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obama care website. alis alis alison joins me from the new york stock exchange. >> yeah, this coming from kathleen sebelius. she's calling this a technology surge. i think it's safe to call this a scramble for help to make it so americans can actually access healthcare.gov because of all the problems with the website. what's going on now is the department announced it's bringing on a slew of experts to diagnose and to fix these problems plaguing this website so it can be up and running so people could sign up for health insurance. so what the department has done is it's hired people to help clean up the code of the website so it can actually be used. there's one report that the government has actually asked the site's main contractor to add staff and put its "a" team in the effort. many are wondering, why wasn't this team brought on earlier? you're seeing a lot of the big guns are being brought on to
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help this effort and trying to get this website up and running. >> before you go, i want to ask you about consumer reports. we know they clarified their position on obama care. what did they say this morning? >> what they're saying is they're recommending that healthcare.gov and supporting obama care. in fact, they've put out a statement saying, our advice remains the same, that the best place to buy coverage on your own is through the health insurance marketplace in your state. translati translation, they're saying use healthcare.gov. reports are saying obama care will lower deductibles and copays. this whole controversy got started when all these technical problems started on the website. there was a blog post on consumer reports saying stay away from healthcare.gov, at least for a month to allow the software to be fixed. some republicans latched on to that. they tweeted out that consumer reports was recommending staying away from the site. this really caught a lot of attention. a lot of people go to consumer
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reports as their go-to place to comparison shop for many things. it's got this great reputation. now you've got consumer reports saying, wait a minute, we're okay with the website. our words are being twisted. that's why they're clarifying. >> thank you very much. now this. you've heard the saying go big or go home, right? well, one texas high school team ranked number one in its state division might have taken that phrase a tad too far. >> i would never ask our kids not to play hard. i would never tell them, go out there and let them score. that's not what you want to teach kids. >> the bear cats crushed ft. worth's western hills high 91-0 last week. now a parent from the losing team has dropped a bomb, a bullying complaint saying the coach should have told his players to pull back.
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is he right? our legal analyst is joining us here. this is the first i've heard as far as a team clobbering another and this being equated to a form of bullying. are there rules? i know there are rules against being unsportsmanlike, but does this qualify? >> this kind of lop-sided win is nothing new. in fact, the record is about 256 points to nothing for lop-sided school victories. this isn't even half of that. however, the issue of bullying is bullying has been defined broadly in most statutes to include any kind of aggressive or unwanted behavior that includes a power imbalance. the power with defining it so broadly is you could arguably say this is bullying. however, i want to be clear. it is highly unlikely that it is. mostly because high school sports are consensual. they're sanctioned. the idea of the power imbalance involved here is the essence of the game. we would never have high school sports or pro sports or any kind
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of sports where we would literally handicap the other players with, say, tying a weight around their neck. it's inconceivable that the coach should have been expected to tell his players to pull back. it should be noted he did run the ball almost entirely. he snapped the ball with his starters about 21 times and that's it. if you look at the stats, this coach was not in it to run up the score at all. >> okay. listen, you played sports. i played sported. bottom line, you want to win and you run playing in order to score that win. do you think in this case maybe the school districts are lopsided, maybe this is an issue for going down to a lower level division and maybe this isn't really -- i mean, the word bullying, we have to be careful with that word, i think. >> once again, if that's true, it's the fault of the administrators and the people who put them in that division. certainly not the kids' fault. once you have your opponent, you're there to play. the coach ran the ball on a
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running clock. that means time was running without any stoppage starting in the third quarter. this coach did everything he could short of telling his players to essentially physical little hold back, which is a really dangerous thing to have a coach tell his players to do. he did almost everything he could as a coach to run out the clock and avoid running up the score. >> okay. danny, thank you. and any moment now, apple is set to unveil its new line of ipads. but they're not the only ones showing us new tablets today. we'll have all the latest techie, cool stuff. plus, a line of fires nearly 1,000 miles long may quickly became the worst-case scenario. we're now getting an up-close look. ♪
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seconds ago apple just updated its website to unveil the new ipad. voila. take a look. the official announcement is happening right now in new york. our tech expert is here to walk us through what is going on. katy, i would love to walk in your closet and see your collections of glasses. i digress. what was this is unveiling today? >> yes, well, no one conjures up the tech news quite like the apple brand. and don't call it an ipad. we had two new unveils today. it's now the ipad air. this is exciting because thinner, lighter, two times faster. it weighs just one pound, making it one of the lightest tablets in the world. also comes in black, white, and
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also silver. the cool part is november 1st it will be available at $500. also, the other announcement was the ipad mini is going to be faster. it comes with that retina display everybody's been asking about. also comes in white, gray, and black. starts at $399. shipping later in november. exciting for consumers because they're keeping the older ipad mini on the market for only $300. apple has lots of stats when they hit the stage with these kind of presentations. they've sold 170 million ipads to date. they have 81% of the consumer market share. this is huge news. >> it's huge news, but the competition is trying to stay in there. what's this other tablet? there are other brands competing with this, right? >> yes, try they will. let's call it tech tablet tuesday. today alone microsoft unveiled their surface pro and surface 2. also, nokia has entered into the tablet space. the tablet world is locked up by apple, but i think there's a chance in the corporate world.
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i think samsung when we talk about tablets and phones, they have a really good shot on the phone side in their galaxy lineup to compete with apple. as the holidays press on, it's always exciting as we hit the fourth quarter. it's like a tech advent calendar. everybody is coming out with a new device every sing l day. we have to watch this play out. lots of new technology and lots to shop for in the holiday season. >> i love your excitement. tech tablet tuesday? >> yes. >> say that three times fast. always a pleasure. thank you. >> thank you. right now in australia, the country's most populated state is burning. frightened folks are being warned get ready to run because the worst is yet to come. look at these pictures. several uncontained fire fronts emerging on the outskirts of sydney. a line of fires nearly 1,000 miles long now gaining intensity as these hot winds are fanning the flames, pushing the fire fronts altogether. now, these fires have already
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carved a trail of destruction in an area -- just to put this in perspective, about the size of los angeles. more than 200 homes reduced to ash. firefighters warning people not to expect to be rescued. instead, the advice, run. here's a terrifying look at what happens to the lucky ones rescued as a wall of flames closes in.
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>> all that smoke. you heard the coughing. now this, this is what the skies of sydney looks like. some of australia's most famous landmarks framed by black smoke and the red glow from the horizon. coming up, is that mysterious blond girl found in greece american? the parents of a long-missing baby are reaching out very hopeful. plus, the daughter of a doctor accused of drugging and drowning his own wife expected to take the stand and testify against her dad. that's next. d" ♪
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risk includes possible loss of principal. jurors in the trial of dr. martin mcneill heard some puzzling testimony today. what they listened to, or who, were these first responders. they were talking about his behavior at the time of his wife's death. the words they described to use this behavior, loud, angry, but does that add up to suspicious? prosecutors say mcneill killed his wife michelle with a toxic combination of drugs prescribed after he pressured her to have a facelift. all so he could continue his relationship with his alleged mistress, their nanny. today, first responders gave jurors plenty to think about. >> what was the defendant like at the emergency room? >> his behavior continued to the point where the e.r. staff was required to call security.
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>> and when you say continued, will you describe that? >> just his angry demeanor. loud, disruptive. >> and physically, what was he doing? >> he was back and forth in the trauma bay, out into the hallway, around the nurse's station. he was very mobile about the e.r. >> let's talk about this testimony and what this means here. jane velez-mitchell joining me, keeping a close eye on the trial. jane, when you hear those words, the e.r. staff called security, that his behavior was angry, what are prosecutors trying to do here with this testimony? >> well, they're trying, brooke, to prove that he's a liar, he's a manipulator, and he's a really, really bad actor. now, we've had a slew of first responders who arrived at the home, for example, when we found out that michelle was in the tub unresponsive who have now
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testified that this guy was hysterical, and he was screaming and he was cursing and he was yelling and he was pacing and he was disruptive and saying, why, i told her not to have the surgery, why did she have to have that surgery. prosecutors say that's a big lie, that he was the one who pressured his wife to have the plastic surgery, that she didn't want. she was a former beauty queen. that he's the one who gave her this cocktail of sedatives and painkillers in a plot to kill her. >> so flip this around, what does the defense do? what's their strategy in countering those arguments you just laid out? >> well, i mean, this is a very circumstantial case. this happened six years ago. i mean, here's the problem. originally the authorities said nothing to see here. this was not a crime. the original medical examiner said that she died of natural causes. it was only after the two adult daughters convinced that their father was a killer launched a
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campaign. i mean, they went to the governor. they went here, there, and everywhere. finally they got their dad charged with murder. but even now the state's forensic experts cannot say 100% for sure that based on the medical and scientific evidence this was a homicide. so this is about circumstances. that's often a hard case to prove. >> what about the family, the children specifically? i think there are eight children, but it's this daughter's testimony that is expected that could be pretty damaging against her own father. what is she expected to say? >> well, she's going to get up there, and unfortunately, it's sad that she can't say some of the most incriminating things she has to say, namely that her own mom told heifr, listen, if anything happens to me, make sure dad didn't do it. the jury isn't going to hear a lot of incriminating stuff she's itching to say. she can make the case. she's the one who launched the campaign against her dad. what the defense is going to do
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with her, they're going to say she's a bitter daughter who has been disinherited by her dad, who was is upset because her dad was a cheater, having an affair, a man who had a secret life, had a mistress, and he may be a kag, but he's not a killer. >> what about, jane, we heard last week there was testimony from some of these neighbors who testified that mcneill, once he found her drowned in this bathtub, and he says he tried performing cpr, neighbors saying he was faking cpr. when we heard from first responders today, what did they say about that? >> here's the thing. the 911 call is absolutely extraordinary. it catches him in a lie about the cpr. he is screaming and yelling and hysterical, of course hangs up three times, by the way, while the dispatcher is trying to get the address. over the course of these 911 calls, he says, oh, she's in the tub, and i'm trying to get her out. then she asks a question to the effect of, can somebody do cpr?
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he goes, i'm doing it. well, you can't do cpr in a tub properly. right there he is caught in a lie. >> jane velez-mitchell, we're following the case very closely along with you. watch "jvm" each and every weeknight on hln. jane, thank you. >> thanks. coming up, i'll talk live with a republican judge who said he's had enough of his party and is becoming a democrat. we'll hear his reasons live on the show. plus, my top videos of the day, including what a young girl found at a state park. bling bling. stick around. the american dream is of a better future, a confident retirement. those dreams, there's just no way we're going to let them die. ♪ like they helped millions of others. by listening. planning. working one on one. that's what ameriprise financial does. that's what they can do with you. that's how ameriprise puts more within reach.
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now to some of the hottest video of the day. we call it "hit play." he shoots, he scores. it's a dream come true for a star basketball player from georgia missing the lower part
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of his left arm. he's now committed to play as a florida gator. hey, ladies. they say diamonds are a girl's best friend. this girl found a big one in the dirt. 3.8 carats. she was digging in an arkansas state park and uncovered this yellow tear-drop shaped diamond. >> i think it's a marble. i realize it's not. i clutch it as hard as i can. >> she says she's going to keep it for a ring. if it's worth a lot, she says it could help pay for college. melissa mccarthy hitting the red carpet in l.a. last night giving her side of the recent controversy surrounding the "elle" cover photo. >> i was completely surprised by it. i had a great little black dress on, and then it was summer and i was like, oh, god, is summer ever going to end? i want it to be coat weather. so i grabbed the coat.
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i thought it was like -- i thought it was a fantastic coat and really chic. i didn't steal the coat, which now i regret. it's sergeant calvin munoz's first trip home in ten months, serving in afghanistan. now he's steps away from a surprise reunion with his mom. [ applause ] and that's today's "hit play." could the mysterious blond girl found in greece be an american baby? baby lisa's parents and other hopeful couples are now reaching out. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. the operation to free inmates through bogus paperwork is actually much more common than we thought. cnn investigates. mold in the locker room, long bus trips, football players at
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grambling stage a boycott. plus, i'll talk live with a republican judge who says he's had enough. consider him a democrat. >> i can no longer be a member of the republican party. >> you'll hear why. and breast-feeding, marijuana. can't show that stuff on facebook. but beheadings? sure. no problem. and we continue on, on this tuesday. i'm brooke baldwin. a blond-haired, blue-eyed girl has been discovered living among romanis, historically known as gypsys, in ireland. police have removed the girl from a family who look nothing like her. sounds like the case of little maria. her face is everywhere. we still don't know who this little girl is. she was found living in with
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dark-featured roma family in greece. today there's a new twist in this case. this one hits very, very close to home. the big question, could maria be a missing american child? cnn's george howell is here. george, we know one couple in kansas city have stepped forward saying maria could be their missing little girl. i'm sure they're very hopeful. you talked to them. what did they tell you? >> reporter: brooke, so the erwin family -- and when you talk to them, talk to this mother, this father, they see similarities. they look at the two pictures side by side. you know, the mother, she looks at it and says there are similarities in the nose. there are similarities in the eyes. even though the color has changed, she says that happens with young children. she believes this very well could be her missing daughter. however, there are some discrepancies. there are some differences. keep in mind we've heard from the group smiles of a child that
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maria is 5 or 6 years old. that's according to dental records. here, lisa would be 3 years old this month. rather next month. i talked to the family about those discrepancies. i want you to listen to what they had to say. we can talk about it here on the other side. >> the dental records that you just mentioned, that's kind of the first time we've heard about that as a for sure type of thing. >> and does that discourage you? >> absolutely not. doesn't discourage me at all. like i said, lisa is very, very big for her age. when she was kidnapped, she was 11 months old, wearing 18 months and 2-t. she's a very big girl. we're unbelievably grateful and shocked at the compassion pouring in from all over the world. everything from on her website to her facebook page, to her
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e-mail. people from all over the world are contacting us, have you heard about this, or we think this might be lisa. even if it's not, we hope your baby comes back soon. it just feels gook that lisa has so much support and people care about her and want to see her come home. >> reporter: so brooke, they're optimistic. they're hopeful. you have to look at this story in its full context. look back two years ago. we're talking about a family, a mother and father, who themselves were questioned by police at one point, a case that's been a mystery here in kansas city for quite some time. we've seen this family holding candle light vigils. we've seen posters. in fact, if you look back at the house, you might be able to see there are banners all over front of this house. they're very hopeful, you know, that this could be an answer to a mystery here to this city and certainly this family. >> gosh, your heart goes out for that couple and so many couples. we cover so many missing kid
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investigations. george howell, hopefully they find her. thank you. and it took just three months for a seventh grader to forever scar sparks middle school in nevada, killing a teacher, wounding two students, and then ultimately shooting and killing himself. but really, the big question remains, who is he, and why? why did he do this? just this afternoon, police gave new details on what the 12-year-old boy did monday before school even started. authorities say he first shot a student in the stomach and then math teacher mike landsberry tried to step in, tried to stop him. the shooter, as we now know, ultimately shot and killed landsberry, shot another student in the stomach, and then ultimately turned the gun on himself. officials also gave credit to students, other staff members at the school from keeping the boy from getting inside the school. >> the procedures that are in place that the staff used did
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not allow the shooter to enter the school. i cannot thank their actions, what they did, along with the students of the school, i cannot thank them enough for what they've done. >> investigators are trying to figure out again the answer to the question, why? but a friend of the shooter says he was bullied. >> he was really a nice kid. he would make you smile when you're having a bad day. if you were -- he'd just ask you if he could buy you something. you know, he was just really a nice kid. i believe it was because i saw him getting bullied a couple times, and i think he took out his bullying on it. >> joining me now, forensic psychologist jeff gardere. jeff, we hear this girl describing the shooter as a nice kid. what strikes me is his age. 12 years young. are these school shooters getting younger and younger? >> well, we know that the
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incidents of the shootings, when we're looking at the ages of the individuals involved, we do see they're getting younger. we see they're more immature. it really doesn't surprise me, brooke, that these students are saying that this young man was probably a very, very nice kid and bullying may have had something to do with his murderous actions. >> you know, i was sitting, talking to a number of my colleagues today. you know, i know, bullying is not new. people were bullied 10, 20, 30 years ago. so why are we hearing so much more about this today? >> well, i think first of all that there is much more violence in the world. a lot of these kids who were bullied way back when, back in our generation, my generation, certainly didn't have the violent video games, and it wasn't such a violent world. now when you add on the violent video games, you add on the
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increased incidents of homicides in some of our cities. then you add that on to the bullying. i think that becomes the very deadly recipe. of course, you have to look at the internet. of course it has been a savior for many of us, as far as giving us information. but there's a lot of bad stuff out there that kids latch on to, which also pushes them over the edge. >> i know, you know, video gamers staunchly defend what they do and what they play is fantasy and not reality. perhaps there is some truth to that. i also do want to ask you because we heard from the police chief today, and in this case, specifically in sparks middle school, he will not name the shooter. this is what he said. >> we have been in contact with the parents of the suspect in this matter, and out of respect for them, we will not be releasing the identity of the shooter. they are grieving parents and
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are going through a very challenging, difficult time. >> beyond tough for the parents of this 12-year-old. what do you make of the fact, though, that they are not releasing this young person's identity? >> well, first and foremost, he is a minor. secondly, this is a situation which may be a little bit different from the others in that we see what we call the premorbid history. in other words, his psychological history may not be there for this individual child. there may have been bullying involved. if nothing else, they're trying to look at what happened. remember, this isn't just the case of murder. this is a murder-suicide. this was probably a young man who had some predisposing issues, perhaps some depression which was not diagnosed, and the bullying, if that was part of the complex picture here, may have pushed him over. he may have come from a stable family. so another reason that we're seeing some sensitivity to this young man. >> yeah, we also know police are
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investigating the parents. apparently this gun came from the home. so we'll follow it. jeff gardere, sad all the way around. thank you so much. >> sure. coming up, moldy locker rooms, long bus rides, football players at grambling stage a boycott against the university. did they win that fight? plus, cee lo charged with slipping a woman ecstasy but not charged with rape. how did investigators come to that conclusion? and a republican judge says he's had it with his own party. he'll tell me live why he's switching to become a democrat. stay right here. this is cnn. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company.
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it is hardly new in texas for politicians to switch parties. take governor rick perry, for example. now democrats are hoping this san antonio judge is a sign things are changing in that direction. >> i can to longer be a member of the republican party. i will not be a member of a party in which hate speech elevates candidates for higher office rather than disqualifying them. i cannot place my name on the ballot for a political party that's proud to destroy the lives of the hundreds of thousands of federal workers over the vain attempt to repeal a law that will provide health care to millions of people. >> that was the voice of judge carlo key, elected in 2010 as a
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republican. he says he will run for re-election as a democrat. judge key is with me now from san antonio and joins me by phone. judge, welcome. >> thank you. thank you for having me. >> you say the republican party -- and let me quote you here -- demeans texans based on their sexual orientation, the color of their skin, and their economic status. can you explain what you mean by that? >> well, i mean, ultimately the issues that have been coming before the media on a national level, it seems like those are the issues that the republican party wishes to address most often and most loudly. you know, gay marriage, things of that nature. there were some things going on here locally that addressed the same types of issues. also, you know, with immigration, issues that are now going to start getting fired up this election cycle. i would anticipate you could assume more of the same is going to be coming. >> i found it interesting in
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reading about your story, you mentioned specifically the government shutdown as one of the reasons why you're leaving your party. so i wanted to ask you about this guy, this fellow texan, ted cruz. let me play some sound. this is ted cruz returning home last night. >> you know, have y'all noticed -- you know, the nigerian e-mail scammers? they've been a lot less active lately. because they've all been hired to run the obama care website. >> senator ted cruz -- i just wanted to ask, judge, did the emergence, did the ted cruz strategy, what we saw play out in washington the last couple weeks, it really hailed as a hero to a lot of republicans, did it have any bearing on your decision to quit? >> i have to say absolutely. the tea party represents one of the most extreme positions of the republican party. you know, down here in south texas where i am, there's a lot of support for that. it seems to be that texas happens to be one of the ground zeros for the tea party.
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and it really is, you know, pushing the conversation to the extreme. >> here is, though, where i need to press you. i know running as a republican judge you already had attracted a primary challenger. so rwill running as a democrat make your path to re-election a little easier? >> no, the people who say that, i would say, you know, look at the history. i would say that, you know, the incumbent republican historically is in the driver's seat. that has always been. i would say honestly, it's not to a politician's best interest to run as a democrat down here. but, you know, unfortunately i felt like that is what i had to do. this is a personal decision. anyone that says i'm doing that to gain advantage doesn't know very much about political history down here in texas. >> when you look at this video -- i watched the whole thing, 2 1/2 minutes, this svido
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announcement of yours. dare i say it cost a chunk of change to produce. did you get any help from democrats to pay for this production? >> well, i can say that, you know, the local party here, the democratic party here has known i'm a moderate when i was elected in 2010. everybody knew me to be a moderate. when they saw i had interest, that i had -- that my values were taking me somewhere else, that they supported me. honestly, you know -- >> so that is a question, that pay paid or helped you pay for this ad. >> no, you know, we just kind of threw this up. i mean, i'm sure there's people that have been working on it. i have my own team. you know, it's trying to be a political issue, but i'm way down on the ballot. i'm a county court judge. this is not a big financial business here. so we're just trying to get the message out, grateful to social
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media. you can do it cheaply. >> okay. judge carlo key calling from san antonio, we appreciate it. thanks for taking the time. >> thank you very much. >> coming up, we're just confirming that kathleen sebelius will be testifying next week about the mess over the obama care website. but will she deflect blame, or will she take responsibility? plus, college football players refusing to play ball because they say they are being neglected, including the conditions inside this locker room. you have to hear this story. it's next. [ male announcer ] legalzoom has helped start over 1 million businesses. if you have a business idea, we have a personalized legal solution that's right for you. with easy step-by-step guidance, we're here to help you turn your dream into a reality. start your business today with legalzoom. just by talking to a helmet. it grabbed the patient's record before we even picked him up. it found out the doctor we needed was at st. anne's. wiggle your toes. [ driver ] and it got his okay on treatment from miles away. it even pulled strings with the stoplights.
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historically black college, home to a legendary football program, had to forfeit saturday's game against jackson state because only 22 players showed up last friday to get on the bus. players have been angry ever since head coach and former super bowl mvp doug williams was fired in september. his replacement was assigned earlier this week. players also boycotted two days of practice. a lot happening here in this story. professor, we're going to get to you in a second. you know, there was a lot to this story in term of this boycott, in terms of players being frustrated over this coach's firing. specifically what are these players frustrated about? >> the coach's firing is really a small piece of this entire puzzle. we found a letter online that was reportedly written by the
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grandmoth grambling stay football players detailing a number of complaints. the letter mirrors what was noted on a twitter page that we found that appears to belong to one of the players and the apparent team spokesperson. that page, we want to show you some of the pictures on that page that shows what the letter is talking about. it shows pictures of broken equipment and moldy ceilings and walls and those pictures are captioned with, see our struggle. in the grievance letter, it's noted that the equipment in the weight room is falling apart, benches are tearing and ripping. players seem to be unhappy with the fact they're taking bus rides in excess of eight hours right before a game rather than flying. as you mentioned, the team did not play last weekend against jackson state, forfeiting that game. however, players seem to be willing to play this saturday against texas southern. here's what smith has to say
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about that. >> we have not forgotten the situation and how we've gotten here. we're looking to improve the conditions for the university and future student athletes. >> now, there are reports that state budget cuts are to blame. the university says it's not just affecting the football program but also the university as a whole. university officials are also saying, brooke, that they are working with the players to deal with these issues. >> so is that what it is? it's budget cuts specifically at grambling that have led to the moldy locker rooms we saw and the deteriorating equipment? >> it appears to be the issue. it seems that the university says that these budget cuts are affecting the university as a whole, including the football program. >> okay. professor gill, i know you got this anonymous e-mail, heads up, as far as what's happening at grambling.
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really, it's sad to look at when you know the storied football program there. what do you make of the boycott by these players? >> well, first of all, i would like to commend the players at grambling state university for standing up for their rights in terms of having, you know, a weight room and travel accommodations that fit the demands of their schedule. but grambling state university is in a difficult position, as are many historically black colleges, when we talk about the budget cuts. $18 million was cut from the grambling state university budget. that's difficult for any athletic program to deal with. >> when you read about it and hear about football players just forfeiting games, not showing up to get on the bus, i was curious as far as how the university would handle this. i know the president at gr grambling said, listen, we're not going to retaliate because this is shining a national spotlight on this budget plight. at the same time, this school here could be slapped with a
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$20,000 fine for forfeiting the game. is it fair for these players just to walk away? >> well, again, i think the players did the right thing. i think that they on friday and last week, they were under tremendous pressure in terms of playing the game at jackson state university for homecoming. the student athletes human rights project became concerned when it was alleged that an e-mail was sent in mass to the players saying they face the forfeiture of scholarship if they did not play the game at jackson state university. so that was of concern. i think, brooke, when you have situations like this, especially when this is a first when we talk about division i student athletes protesting their conditions, that there are going to be some mistakes made on both sides. but i do feel after visiting the campus over the past couple of days that the administration, in particular the athletic
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director, has taken a more sensitive approach to these players' needs and some of their concerns are going to be addressed. >> emmet gill, thank you. alina, thank you very much. we'll stay on it and see what changes happen at grambling and other hbcus as well. today the obama administration announces major changes to the health care website, but the blame game, as you well know, is well underway. cnn has learned some people working on the site saw problems coming a long time before the launch of that website. plus, two of the cleveland kidnapping victims are working on a very special project together. we will tell you how they plan to reveal more information about their horrific ordeal and their survival. it guides you to a number that will change
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bottom of the hour. i'm brooke baldwin. let's talk about the nation's rate of unemployment here. it did tick down again in september, but the number of jobs created here has analysts not necessarily all pleased today. in its monthly look at the jobs picture, the labor department says the economy created 148,000 new jobs. that is a bit less than average here for the past 12 months. the rate of unemployment did drop. you see the number there, to 7.2%. but the findings may have been skewed by the recent government
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shutdown. his name rimes with science, so that can't be that bad. the obama administration announcing that jeff zience is coming on to help with the obama care website. meantime, the administration says it's got experts burning the midnight oil, running 24/7 here to try to repair the obama care website. casey winan has more on that. >> way more glitches than i think are acceptable. >> reporter: glitches? >> the website launch was rockier than we would have liked. >> reporter: rockier? >> we're working out the kinks in the system. >> reporter: kinks? by now it's clear that stronger words are needed to describe the web launch of obama care. >> it's been a fiasco. >> reporter: the white house struggled to answer questions about what many have said was inadequate testing prior to the launch of the website. >> do you know whether the website was beta tested? >> in terms of the types of testing and -- i just don't want
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to pretend to be an expert. what i can say is that the system has not worked as effectively and efficiently, obviously, as we wanted it to. the president, secretary, anybody wanted it to. >> reporter: the secretary of health and human services, kathleen sebelius, says the online insurance marketplace needed five years of construction. in reality, she said, quote, we had two years and almost no testing. an executive of navigant consulting was hired to help set up the ek changes. >> it's not so much a surprise initially. i think the fact there seems to be so much ongoing problems noted is more of the surprise. >> reporter: the largest obama care contractor is cgi group, a canadian firm that developed much of the website's architecture. in a statement, cgi said it and other contractors, quote, are working around the clock toward the improvement of healthcare.gov, a system that is complex, ambitious, and
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unprecedented. we remain confident in our ability to deliver continuous improvement and system performance and a more positive user experience. but that's not enough for some critics. >> send air force one out to silicon valley, load it up with some smart people, bring them back to washington, and fix this problem. >> reporter: matt is one of those smart people from silicon valley who founded word press, which hosts one in five websites. >> you can have fast, good, or cheap. pick two of three. sounds like they went for the fast and cheap. the launch date was probably picked politically. the software and everything else was backed into that. >> reporter: casey winan, cnn, los angeles. coming up, big news for two of the women kidnapped and kept hostage for a decade in cleveland. they're writing a book. they won't be doing it alone. we have details for you today. plus, a former federal inmate tells me just how common these forgery scams are. you know the one that two convicted killers used to leave
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>> > two of the three survivors of ohio kidnapper ariel castro are now writing a book about their nightmarish ordeal. they're amanda berry and gina dejesus. we're getting that news from their attorneys. reps for these ladies say the women decided to write this book because so far they say no one has been able to accurately tell their stories about what happened to them inside that cleveland house of horrors. mary jordan of "the washington post" will help write it. she is a cleveland native. so she has agreed to come on the show tomorrow to talk about this kind of project, and i'll ask her about the process of writing such a gut-wrenching piece of
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nonfiction. to florida now where new leads are still coming in to who may have help these two convicted murders use forged documents to get out of prison. investigators now just trying to figure out how joseph jenkins and charles walker used phoney paperwork that allowed them to walk free just a few days apart. they were taken into custody saturday at this panama city motel. the state's top law enforcement officials say there will be more arrests in this case. >> jenkins and walker are already serving life sentences. they have very little to lose, but those who helped them have very much to lose, and i urge those of you who may have helped them to come forward, talk to us before we find you. >> we talked about this case here with a man by the name of larry lavigne. he's a former federal inmate, the founder of wall street prison consultant. one of the questions i asked was exactly how much access to high-security inmates like these
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two really have to the outside world? this was his response. >> access to a telephone, i don't know how many times a week or how many minutes they get in florida. they also have access to visiting. >> what about the internet? >> well, they should not have any access to the internet. i mean, in the federal system, you have access to e-mail where you can e-mail things back and forth, but there's no pictures, there's no documents. i can't see them jumping on google browsing something, not inside the prison. >> so then why would prison officials seize the computer? just for internal documents and things it of that nature may be planning on this computer? >> well, it's possible that they used the computers inside the law library to research case law and such, to send e-mails to someone on the outside directing them as far as what they wanted to do, but i could go into any prison law library in the united states as an inmate, create my own documents on a typewriter
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just using other inmates' paperwork with a little bit of whiteout and i could have created this order myself to get these guys out. >> wow. so when we hear about this forging of paperwork, that was clearly successful in this case, have you heard of this happening before? >> well, i'll give you an example. i was in a federal prison in el paso, texas. some of the inmates there had outstanding warrants. they had detainers that were preventing them from being released. i drew up paperwork and sent it in to the court back in california, where they had their detainers out of. mistakenly, the california state court system looked at the paperwork that i sent in and actually lifted the detainers on these people, and the federal prison was ready to release them just based on something that i manually created on a typewriter and sent in. so, yes, i'm real familiar with this. >> larry levine, thank you.
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two state agencies are offering rewards up to $10,000 for any information leading to the arrest of anyone helping those two convicted killers escape. coming up, apple unveiling its new ipad. find out what's different about this one. and grammy award winning artist cee-lo green isn't charged with assault, but he is charged with slipping ecstasy to a woman. how can they prove one thing but not the other? we'll debate that. first, enrique iglesias is asking fans to save a life by becoming a marrow donor. here's this impact your world. prchts we can make an impact on people in need. love, hope, strength is a rock and roll cancer organization. >> this is just the eligibility. >> they're getting people to register for bone marrow transplant. it's extremely easy.
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conclude ultimately that bad guys, for want of a better term, were killed in some of these strikes. but in other instances, civilians were killed in violation, according to these groups, of international law. we'll be talking about this on "the lead" today with both a representative of amnesty international and also the former chief of staff of the cia and pentagon and we'll be discussing the use of drone strikes. the basic response today by the administration is what you get any time you ask about this, which is that the administration takes great care to make sure that the risk to civilians is as little as possible. but in some of these examples, some of these stories, the only people killed were civilians, and there's no repercussions as there might be if a civilian is killed, for instance, in afghanistan by a u.s. soldier. there's no way to go -- nowhere to go to get justice. >> huge issue. we tackled it a number of times on this show. we'll be watching that conversation with those guests of yours. jake tapper, we'll be watching you 12 minutes away on "the
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lead." meantime, singer cee-lo green is in trouble with the law, but it could be worse. the star of "the voice" faces a charge of furnishing a controlled substance to a woman. the same woman accused him of sexual assault. he was not charged with rape. our cnn legal analysts are here to walk through this. first of all, sunny, to you. we know that green's accuser says she woke up naked in his bed. prosecutor said they didn't have enough evidence to charge him. what do you make of that? >> you know, that happens oftentimes, brooke. it's not necessarily what happened when you're a prosecutor, unfortunately. it's what you can prove in court. these prosecutors have said, listen, not necessarily that they don't believe the victim but that there is ther area saying that they can't prove up her level of alleged
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intoxication and they also can't prove up that he knew or should have known her level of impairment so that tells me perhaps there was no blood test taken, perhaps the forensics just aren't there to prove up what she is saying, not necessarily that they don't believe her, but they don't have enough evidence to prove up what she's saying beyond a reasonable doubt. so you know, it's sort of a win for cee-lo although he's facing up to four years in prison in terms of exposure on this other count. it's just something that prosecutors face each and every day. >> i was going to get to that four years in a second. but this charge, furnishing a controlled substance, what does that really mean? >> so in california, if you possess -- this is otherwise just a simple possession case, but in california, like with many states, once the word is furnish it, basically give it to somebody else, that ups it to a felony and that is a much more
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serious charge than say a misdemeanor or lesser charge. but in this case, this is a fascinating case because the entire proof must be had by the uncorroborated testimony of a complaining witness, not a police officer. a lot of drug cases are -- the only witnesses are police officers who are doing surveillance. this is the uncorroborated testimony of a witness, a civilian, that the prosecutor already decided is not credible enough to bring a sexual assault case. >> i disagree with that. wow, danny. wow. >> why do you disagree? >> you know, danny's saying that they have determined that she's not credible. that is not accurate. prosecutors make decisions again all the time, not necessarily based on whether or not they believe a victim, but whether or not they can prove up what the victim is saying. so i don't think that it's fair or accurate to indicate that the prosecutors don't believe this victim, that they don't find her credible. they simply can't prove what she is saying in a court of law
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beyond a reasonable doubt which is a very high burden. >> it's just logic. the inference to be drawn is if she is the sole witness and the prosecution has decided not to prosecute, the only inference we can really draw is they believe she will not be credible at trial. >> that's not true. >> they're not saying she's a bad person. you said it yourself. sometimes they feel they can't prove it up. in this case, that's the case. >> doesn't mean they think she's a liar. >> what does this mean, though? >> i never said that. >> i'm hearing both sides. sunny, you point out if found guilty, he could face four years in prison. do you think it's likely he would serve all that time? >> not in california. not in l.a. i don't think so. we know there's a crowding situation. we've seen things like lindsay lohan and others that spend five hours in prison and then leave. but then you also have conrad murray, who spent a lot more time in prison and is still in prison. so it's hard to tell. this is a case that screams to me of a plea deal, maybe danny as a defense attorney can speak
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better to that. but i doubt that we'll see cee-lo green in prison for four years. >> do you agree, danny? plea deal likely? >> quickly, i don't know his prior record, i don't know what his priors are, but if he's clear on the priors, this is a potential deal. he may choose it just because he's a celebrity, doesn't want it out in the media. >> thanks to both of you. both sides there. coming up, apple, big day for them, unveiling the new line of ipads but they're not the only company showing off the new tablet on this tuesday. plus, breast feeding videos on facebook. no. marijuana, nope. beheadings, yes. it's okay. we'll explain this new policy with facebook and the backlash they are facing. mine was earned orbiting the moon in 1971. afghanistan in 2009. on the u.s.s. saratoga in 1982. [ male announcer ] once it's earned, usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation because it offers a superior level of protection
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all right, you gadget lovers. the new apple ipads are on the way. not too long ago, they upgraded
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now versions of the tablet, lighter, thinner, faster. it also has a new name, the ipad air. apple also unveiling a new ipad mini that comes with a high resolution display. the ipad air goes on sale november 1st. as for the mini, you do have to wait longer. they say that is expected to come out just a couple weeks later. outrage today as facebook decides to lift its ban on violent videos, including ones that show beheadings, so that means users as young as 13 could have a decapitation video pop up on their news feeds. cnn correspondent samuel burke joins me now. i know it was a temporary ban, went into effect in may, lots of complaints over one very gruesome video. what happened about that? >> it was just a few months ago that facebook's own users flagged up a video of a woman being beheaded and now that video has resurfaced in the past couple days on facebook. i want to show you just a still
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from that video, not the actual video. we decided to blur the woman's face that appeared in this video. now, in this picture, she's on her knees and a man is holding her hair which you see right there. that man later cuts off her head in the video. facebook users outraged, demanded that facebook bring this video down but facebook told them it no longer violated their policies. that's when we all realized that facebook had lifted that temporary ban and that these type of violent videos can go on the social network. >> so why? what is facebook specifically saying to turn this ban around? >> i spoke to somebody from facebook last night and this representative told me that facebook wants to walk the line between allowing people to show images of the violence that happens in our world and images that glorify violence. in a statement, facebook went on to say that facebook has long been a place where people turn to share their experiences such as human rights abuses, acts of terrorism and other violent
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events. people share videos of these events on facebook to condemn them. if they were being celebrated or the actions in them encouraged, our approach would be different. so now facebook will be deciding what's glorifying violence and what's not. that answer did not satisfy many on social media, including the prime minister of the united kingdom, david cameron. he took to twitter early this morning and said it's irresponsible for facebook to post beheading videos, especially without warning. they must explain their actions to worried parents. >> so we here at cnn, we have to, when we play videos that are tough to watch, we say listen, this is a warning, get the kids out of the room. is facebook doing anything like that? is this just one click away? >> of course, we would only show a portion here on television, cnn.com airs text before warning people. facebook told me that they are working on a system like that that would warn viewers and give them a few seconds to click up but that is just in beta testing right now. you're not going to see that across the social media network.
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it's only a few users who are seeing that currently. >> samuel burke, thank you very much for joining me. thank you for being with me. i will see you tomorrow. in the meantime, let's go to washington. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. please stay on the line. your call is very important to us. how does signing up for obama care between 8:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. on thursday sound? i'm jake tapper. this is "the lead." the national lead. the obama care rollout, a marvel of dysfunction. but do we really need congressional hearings to tell us that? we'll ask one of the republicans eager to grill those who designed the website. also in national news, he survived the battlefields of afghanistan only to die on a school playground. the nevada teacher and former marine gunned down while shielding others from danger. in moments, we will hear from a student who witnessed the horror firsthand. and the pop culture lead. music videos, seems like mtv hasn't played one since before snooki was born, yet it still has the vma